Right here I go first I would like to apologize to Mustafa4 for getting it completely wrong I would also like to apologize to "most" of CBF members, I do not like arguing and I do not like calling other members names or calling them "Thick" as I do try to stick to forum rules, I may not be as clever or as quick thinking as scunner but I do honestly and sincerely love firstly the Turkish people, they are who for me make Turkiye what it is, and secondly I of course love Turkiye. I will stop posting because it does seem to wind certain people up but will keep popping back to see what is going on, I wish CBF and Mustafa4 every success and finish finally with my sincere apologies to him. Hope this thread can now die a natural death and lets get with enjoying the country we all Love. The End